Kathleen built two companies, co-authored a book, and spent her career helping the most vulnerable people in Kansas. From the outside, she looked like someone who had it all together. Then she sat in the back of a training room at 56 and saw a data slide that cracked sixty years of assumed normalcy wide open. This conversation stayed with me for a long time after we finished. Listen at http://www.thelifeshiftpodcast.com/follow