This conversation, presented in a dynamic split screen format, explores the mindset required for continuous personal growth. We discuss the importance of effective communication in fostering connections and achieving goals. It's all about cultivating that entrepreneur motivation to drive forward.

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Matt Fogelson grew up wanting more of his father than his father could give. His dad was a workaholic lawyer who died of lung cancer when Matt was in college, before they ever had the deeper conversations Matt hoped were still ahead of them. The grief that followed was complicated by everything that was left unsaid.

When Matt became a father himself, something unexpected happened. In the chaos of bringing his newborn son home for the first time, he started singing. Not a lullaby. A Grateful Dead song. Broke Down Palace. It came out of him without thought, and his son fell asleep. He kept singing that song, two or three times a week, for the next 14 years.

That moment cracked something open. It led to a music blog, essays in the New York Times and Washington Post, and eventually a memoir called Restrung: Fatherhood in a Different Key. It also led him to quit practicing law, reconnect with the passionate, music-loving version of himself he'd buried, and build with his son the kind of closeness he'd always craved with his own dad.

In this episode, Matt and I talk about inherited emotional distance, the way grief gets supercharged when the relationship was incomplete, what it looks like to consciously break a pattern, and why music became the key to all of it.

Find Matt and his memoir at [mattfogelson.com](http://mattfogelson.com)

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