What happens when the thing you create starts changing you back?

This is a special co-hosted livestream recorded on @Riversidefm with Angela Hollowell. Instead of an interview, this conversation brings two podcast hosts together to talk honestly about podcasting, storytelling, and the quiet personal shifts that happen when you keep showing up to hold space for others.

We talk about why we started our shows, how our hosting styles differ, and why there is no single right way to tell a meaningful story. We reflect on the learning curve of hosting, creating safety without scripting every moment, and letting conversations breathe. Somewhere in the middle of this livestream, I say something out loud that surprised even me. That podcasting has softened me. That it has made me more forgiving of myself. And that it might be the best thing I have ever done for me.

This conversation is not about tactics or growth hacks. It is about trust. Curiosity. And giving yourself permission to do the work in a way that feels honest.

If you are a podcaster, creator, or someone who cares deeply about storytelling, this conversation is for you.

Chapters

00:00 Welcome and why this livestream matters
02:30 Why we started our podcasts
07:00 Different hosting styles and shared intention
14:30 Creating safety without scripting the conversation
22:00 Letting go of perfection as a host
30:00 Podcasting as personal growth
41:00 How storytelling changes the storyteller
52:00 Final reflections and gratitude

podcasting journey, podcast hosting growth, storytelling as healing, live podcast conversation, creative vulnerability, building safe spaces, finding your voice, letting go of perfection, podcasting community

Co Host

Angela Hollowell

Creator of Please Hustle Responsibly

Host of the Honey and Hustle podcast

Please Hustle Responsibly

https://www.pleasehustleresponsibly.com/

Honey and Hustle

https://www.honeyandhustle.co/

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